E307: Nintendy, Microsoft Quiet So Far, But Will SONY Dominate?

June 15, 2007 at 10:21 pm 11 comments

Nintendo and Microsoft have been surprisingly quiet about their E307 plans, but SONY has not–revealing that several high-profile games will be at the upcoming game show. Although we can probably expect big things from Nintendy and Microsoft, would it be safe to say that SONY will dominate? What with Heavenly Sword, Home, LittleBig Planet, Lair, Killzone 2, Ratchet and Clank, SingStar, Warhawk, and Pain all getting previewed at E3 for PS3 alone, it seems as if you can call this thing for SONY already. And the PSP is looking stellar–God of War, SOCOM, Jeanne d’Arc, NBA 08, and Pursuit Force 2 look to be killer games in the future. There’s no way to tell if SONY will dominate in this head-to-head race, but one thing is clear: SONY’s gotta helluva lineup. And the best we can expect from Nintendo is Super Smash Bros. and Halo 3 from Microsoft. My prediction: SONY gets the overall prize for best games, Nintendo in second, and Microsoft in dead last, only held up by a mere Halo 2 sequel. We’ll just have to see.

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  • 1. TCLCloud  |  June 18, 2007 at 8:28 am

    Mere Halo 2 sequel? The most pre-ordered game in history, halo is the game most played on xbox live history and Halo is the surely the reason another million 360s will be sold!

    If anything super smash brother is the mere sequel there, whats so great about pressing any button you want fast enough to make a cartoon charater punch another in the face? Sounds like a flash game or something….

    As for Sony, they don’t look to goo either, Ratchet and Clank isnt gonna sell more PS3’s because parents wont be buying a new console for an updated game when theres 4 of them out already on PS2. Killzone might be popular but the rest are unheard of practically and are not killer titles!

    The 360 will be showing Halo 3, Fable 2, Gears of War 2 another Perfect Dark game and Kameo 2, havning played all of the prequels to these games I will much moreinterested in that the most so far!

    hmmm no mention of GTA4 for anyone or GT:HD for PS3 I notice!

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  • 2. locoroco  |  June 18, 2007 at 8:41 pm

    You think the 360 will “dominate”? It has dominated in the US, but nowhere elsewhere in the world. This is a big problem for Microsoft; they can’t find a market in other countries and it’s something that they’ve been trying to do. I don’t doubt that Halo, Gears of War 2, or even Fable 2 won’t sell–all I was saying is that E3 would be considerably quiet for Microsoft. After all, there’s been confirmations of Gears of War2, but no news that it will be happening thus far.

    As for Nintendo, I hate to say it, but Smash Bros. was a big seller for even the failure (and purple) GameCube in the US, Europe, Japan, and worldwide. I hardly imagine it won’t be internationally–if you’ve ever played a Smash Bros. game, you might notice that it’s a lot more than just a flash game.

    Warhawk is not new, BTW. And Ratchet and Clank has always appealed to a broader base than just the children/teen market. Killzone should do well, and either way, having LA Noire, Saint’s Row, GTA4, and these new games on the shelf will make more people pay attention to these games. After all, Resistance was new and became a million-seller, as did Gears of War. So it all depends on the buzz. And with Lair and Heavenly Sword, there will be major media promotion.

    Sorry to break it to you, but the majority of 360s on the market don’t have built-in Wi-Fi, a built-in next-gen disk drive, or any revolutionary (dare I say it) components. No doubt it’s engaging, but looking at the technological advancements, I think it’s time we know that Microsoft will have changed the 360’s hardware again by 2008 or 2009.

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  • 3. TCLCloud  |  June 19, 2007 at 5:10 pm

    I love my 360 and anyone i’ve showed it to is more than impressed, and the price really helps (its close to half the price of a PS3). The PS3 has a lot of pointless compents, i dont wanna be forsced to buy a new DVD format when im happy with the existing one and if i did want one i could have it optional, and the blu ray dvd player should be optional.

    Fact is the 360 can do amost everything the PS3 can do, you can set it up wirelessly with a USB adapter easily enough, again optional so if you dont want it you dont have to pay for it. Most of the games are gonna be on both and the best games i feel are on the 360 (ones i listed above).

    I like R&C I have 3 of the games! But I wouldny buy a PS3 because of it, I wouldnt for any of the games. This new home thing Sony have got looks like a weird sims rip off that will add to the pointlessness of the PS3. All my friends who have got one have said yeah its okay but the 360 is still better, this could change but not in the next 6 months! Killzone could do well but its gonna be dwarfed by Halo 3.

    I have played Smash Bros 64 and the Gamecube one and am not impressed (Although FF:Dissidia might be good!), i still feel that the Nintendo is for mini games rather than a hardcore gaming console (minus Zelda ad Mario World games, maybe a few others). Even looking at Zelda its a good game but not great, i’ve played Orcarina, Wind Waker and Twilight Princess, all feel too similier, loads of loading times, no voice acting, small areas to investigate and the same set of weapons and items and almost the same plot everytime!

    I think Sony need to bring back a few of the big hitters they had, Crash Badnicoot, Cool Boarders, Tomb Raider etc and get them exclusive to the PS3. For gamers the 360 is the one to have, acheivements make games much more playable, the live arcade is well established and affordable as they remake games in HD its worth seeing as well as adding online play, adn they dont rip the PSP off either! (They need to make a Tekken patch for the PSP to allow online play!)

    (Enjoying our debate, hope it doesnt get violent!)

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  • 4. locoroco  |  June 20, 2007 at 1:03 am

    (Of course it won’t :D)

    I would like for Crash Bandicoot to come back. One of my favorite games ever.

    I have a Wii and I enjoy it very much. I think that the Wii is not just my next-gen purchase because it’s the “hot object” of the current year. I purchased the Wii with three things in mind: 1) all of my shooters and sports games are on my PSP and I look to keep it that way 2) Super Smash Bros. 3) Mario Strikers Charged.

    I personally feel that while the 360 will continue to have an advantage over the PS3–thanks to price and (yes) optional features, I do believe that the PS3 will do better in the longer run. While it STILL may not sell as much as the 360 nor the Wii, I believe it will sell adequately enough for this baby to last 10 years and for SONY to actually come out making a profit on it. This is not my fanboyism kicking in–I think it’s logical opinion at this point.

    While I do know that the Wii is very dear to me, I also know that I will be replacing it in under 5 years. And your 360 will have to be replaced for newer features to be implemented.

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  • 5. Dabuch92  |  June 22, 2007 at 3:29 am

    Dude what do you meen that the 360 doesn’t have any revolutionary features? I hate to break it to you, but the 360 is actually a more powerful system than the PS3. It has a much more powerful gpu and the cpu is general pupose(not specialized like the PS3), which makes it easier to design games on. The PS3 also dosen’t support true HD on its blu-ray games. Another advantage the 360 has is that almost all games are developed on it, then transferred to the PS3(if need apply). Game developers also love the 360 because it’s easier to develope games on.

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  • 6. locoroco  |  June 23, 2007 at 2:18 am

    That is true. But, if somebody wants a DIFFERENT experience than the last generation of gaming–which was built upon the use of controllers and buttons–I’m talking motion-sense and tilt-control, the PS3 and Wii both offer those features.

    At the same time, you are correct about this current-generation race for the best software–the 360 has the most. But, this is all considering a 1-year advantage over both the Wii and PS3. By next November, when both the PS3 and Wii will be exactly one year old, you will be able to compare. By then, we’re looking at great-sellers on the market for both consoles: Smash Bros., Final Fantasy, Mario Galaxy, and a slew of other much-anticipated games.

    Furthermore, for people who already have 360s and weren’t fortunate to have waited out for the Elite, they don’t have certain add-ons that are key to the whole entire gaming experience (and Elite owners certainly don’t have HD-DVD or Wireless built-in, so it does require the extra premiums). For one, let’s say you bought the $400 20GB console. Even with that, you need to dish out the extra $90-$100 for Wireless connection (not every owner is fortunate to have their 360 right by a LAN connection) and up to $200 for the HD-DVD drive (that being the ability to compare it to the PS3, competitively). With all of those editions, you’re $100 north of the most expensive PS3 price–all short of features like Bluetooth, internet access, and the leading next-generation of controls and formats (SIXAXIS and Blu-Ray).

    I just feel it’s hard to say that the 360 will dominate, or that the 360 is better in many ways, because if we’re going for true “next-generation”, we need to set a bar. Unfortunately for Microsoft, that bar is SONY with the PS3’s innumerable technological advancements and Nintendo with one of the most interactive consoles yet. Sure the 360 has the software (yet again all considering their 1-year advantage), but it’s hard to say that SONY and Nintendo won’t in the same 1-year span the 360’s had.

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  • 7. TCLCloud  |  June 23, 2007 at 9:46 am

    I’ll add another decent reply later I just woke up and read all of this!

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  • 8. locoroco  |  June 23, 2007 at 2:09 pm

    =) Hah, I’m enjoying this debate. We all have different opinions and that’s great.

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  • 9. Dabuch92  |  July 5, 2007 at 2:56 pm

    I’ll agree that Sony Nintendo have features that the 360 should. On another note I’m not really arguing against the Wii, because I have one and I love it. I’m really only complaining about Sony’s many mistakes. You might not think that the 360 will reign, but if you really think about it, Sony better do something soon otherwise they might not have the ps3 to be in the running. Also you talk about the 360’s mistakes, when you should look at the mistakes that Sony has made. Some of them are almost unacceptable for a company of this magnitude in the gaming industry. I’m talking about the selling aspects and the software aspects of the system. There’s no doubt that the ps3 is the best piece of hardware, but the software aspects of it aren’t very good. The online organization is horrible and you don’t a 600 dollar gaming machine to get on the internet or play 4 games. You also say that the 360 won’t have anything big at E3, well E3 hasn’t happened yet so we just don’t know. Also you don’t have to buy the 100 dollar wireless adapter to get the 360 wireless there’s plenty of other ways to do so.

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  • 10. imagination  |  July 5, 2007 at 5:42 pm

    by god when will Crash Bandicoot finally come to the PS3?? Hello im the new guy entering the debate. locoroco, i figured u could use some support… if u guys havent noticed, i support the ps3, and believe it will conquer the gaming industry in the long run, simply because of the amazing hardware put into this machine, much of which has not even been tapped into yet. Although i would love to sit here and argue back and forth about the same points between the wii 360 and ps3, i would like to bring up a new topic… handheld gaming. What do u think will win in the handheld race, the DS or the PSP? Will they announce the inevitable PSP2 at e3? and will microsoft come with a suprise handheld of their own?

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  • 11. locoroco  |  July 5, 2007 at 7:52 pm

    Thanks for backing me up :], imagination.

    SONY has made mistakes before, but they came in the next-generation race with so much revenue and profits from the PS2 that they could afford to make a killer machine– unfortunately, this resulted in a shockingly high price tag.

    Yet, the majority of people who WANT a PS3 have not even purchased theirs yet because of the expense, and if SONY lowers the price to $400 for the 60gig and $500 for a possible 80gig, they can easily get new buyers from all kinds of places. This is a big possibility…

    SONY’s attempt with the PS3 was to create the ultimate multimedia machine, and while I will not argue that this was nearly a mistake if they had done it wrongly, they are doing a fine job backing this up–the Playstation Network is growing and finally has a good roster of new and compelling games for download prices that don’t surpass the $20 mark.

    And SONY’s attempt for the future is to completely digitize all of their gaming standards so that the next-generation past this current one will have SONY a step ahead of their competitors so that they will be able to sell games straight from their online network…

    I personally feel that the Playstation Network is a work in progress, and the time I sat down and took a look at it and actually got into playing with it (this was all with a friend’s PS3), I found it quite organized and was only impressed. Playstation Home and interactive games like LittleBig Planet are only to make SONY’s attempt at conquering the online gaming experience easier.

    I also have a Wii and I think that it’ll soon surpass the 360, and then become a short-term competitor, but in the long run, I think that the PS3 will end up winning. And frankly, it has already gotten the attention of Microsoft, who released a 120gig 360 “Elite” with HDMI.

    As for your questions, imagination, the DS has already won. I am a SONY fanboy at heart (but I also enjoy Pokemon and Mario), but I must tell you that SONY made a mistake not pushing the big third-party games it had through advertisements, delaying first-party and second-party games that could go big, and not encouraging publishers to create better games or original games (and frankly, not making the software any easier). The UMD Movie format could’ve easily been improved through just simply allowing for rentals at stores like Blockbuster and Hollywood Video; that sort of accomplishment could’ve put the format on the map. The price tag of the PSP from the beginning wasn’t such of a problem, but pushing it down made it a lot easier.

    I don’t know if they will release a PSP2, but I’m saying no for the time being. It seems a bit too far fetched and I think a bit too soon for a company who likes to wait 6-7 years before replacing a product and 10 years before phasing it out…

    No; Microsoft will not come out with a handheld, I think. Too much for them at this point in time. I think that too much of Microsoft is focused on the possible success/future of Vista and not too much concerned with the handheld market. They know that SONY has gotten eaten alive by Nintendo and they figure that they might too unless they can come up with a library large enough to fill 10 years of gaming.

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